A Few More Thoughts About Determining Year of Release

Top 10 Movies Lists

The following blog post is a response to a listener comment on MPW Episode 315. Context provided below:

Hi Márton,

Thanks for your comment. I don’t know how long you’ve been listening (but first of all, thanks for listening and even caring enough to have an opinion about this)! It makes me happy that other people actually care at all about such things. I respect that. You’re “my kind of people.”

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First…

Brief context for those who dare to read this insanely long blog post:
For years we have debated how to determine a film’s year of release. My proposed method is to consult the “release info” page of IMDb, and select the date that is the first, WIDELY AVAILABLE release of the film in the United States. So, for example, “The Clovehitch Killer” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6269368/releaseinfo would have an *official* release date of Nov. 16, 2018. IMDb is easy for everyone to consult. It has every movie listed. And the reason it should be a USA date is because MPW is a US-based podcast (and the majority of our listenership is in the United States). And I say “first widely available,” meaning, wide release in theaters or on VOD because I am trying to assert an “equal playing field” where all our US-based listeners all have had an equal chance to see a film. The HEART of my complaint has always been this: *** If a limited December release is in contention for Old Year’s Top 10, but I can’t access that film anywhere, then once I can finally see it in New Year, it won’t be a possible contender for New Year’s Top 10 because people consider it an Old Year film. Therefore, important films fall through the cracks and never even have the possibility of making on any of my Top 10 lists. This is unacceptable to me, which is why I consider a film’s official year of release to be when it’s first widely available in the U.S. To me, problem solved: No films are forbidden from being in contention on my Top 10 list.

Recently on MPW, I was trying to just skip over this debate and tell everyone to just send their list and we’ll accept their submissions (and we still will), but my hilarious co-hosts baited me just for kicks, and of course, I can’t resist this debate. So, listener Márton was kind enough to try to be helpful by writing this response to the recent debate.

Márton wrote:

Dear J,
Regarding the top 10 list conundrum – Ryan is right. 2018 movies that you did not get to see this year do not make your list. The movies that fall through the cracks should be on another list made in 2019 (a.k.a. 2018 revision list). You can make corrections to your first end of the year list once you are all caught up with the movies you missed. So I suggest having a revised 2018 list later in 2019. I hope this made some sense.

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Movie Podcast Weekly Ep. 242: Baywatch (2017) and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (2017) and War Machine (2017) and King Arthur: The Legend of the Sword (2017)

Episode 242

Ahoy! Shiver me timbers … They made a fifth “Pirates” movie. This is a job for Movie Podcast Weekly (or, at least, for Karl and our poor guest). In Episode 242, we welcome special guest film critic Cody Clark (of Movie Stream Cast). We bring you four Feature Reviews of Baywatch (2017) and Pirates of the Caribbean:
Dead Men Tell No Tales (2017)
and King Arthur: The Legend of the Sword (2017) and War Machine (2017). Join us! Continue reading

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Episode 174

Happy birthday to Karl! It’s Karl’s Big Birthday Bash on Movie Podcast Weekly, and this very special show is Episode 174! We’re pleased to bring you four Feature Reviews of Best Picture nominee Room and The 5th Wave and The Boy and 400 Days. But our Main Event for this episode is when we celebrate Karl’s birthday by bringing you MPW’s Top 10 Most Important Films Ever Made! We also have a delightful special guest, television critic Laura Tilton on the podcast to review a couple of TV shows. Your MPW crew also weighs in on the potentially controversial “Oscar So White” debate. Join us! Continue reading

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Episode 173

In Episode 173 of Movie Podcast Weekly, we welcome special guest Tom Ryan of the Success in Business Podcast. During this show we bring you Feature Reviews of 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi (2016) and Anesthesia (2016) and Diablo (2016) and Concussion (2015). Join us!

If you’re new to our show… Movie Podcast Weekly typically features four hosts — Jason, Andy, Karl and Geek Cast Ry — along with frequent guests. We give you our verdicts on at least one new movie release from the current year that’s currently playing in theaters, as well as several mini reviews of whatever we’ve been watching lately. Continue reading

Movie Podcast Weekly Ep. 172: The Revenant (2016)

Episode 172

Stop it, Bear! Hi. This is Episode 172 of Movie Podcast Weekly, “the Clown Car of Movie Podcasts…” In this show we welcome back our esteemed guest, William Rowan Jr. of The Sci-Fi Podcast! We bring you a Feature Review of The Revenant and an in-depth, spoiler-filled discussion of the Netflix documentary series “Making a Murderer.” We also make fun of the Golden Globes and other low-hanging fruit pertaining to the movie awards industry. And naturally, we bring you our Mini Reviews and other MPW shenanigans. Join us! Continue reading