87 thoughts on “Movie Podcast Weekly Ep. 171: The Hateful Eight (2016) and Daddy’s Home (2015) and Most Anticipated Movies of 2016”

1. Jay….I feel your pain.

   I swear I came up with the idea of a new social forum website. A place where we can all gather to post pictures of and discuss those momentous times in our lives when we discover one of those ‘hidden’ gems, scattered throughout the country…the former Taco Bells out there that are now other businesses like payday check institutions or salons or what-not. It fills my heart with unending joy when I discover one of these and I get drunk and bloviate to my friends about what a great website this would be. And then my buddy sends me this:
   http://usedtobetacobell.com/
   Balls…so much disappointment. It’s kinda like those times in history when some important scientific theorem was formed, concurrently, by different scientists at different places on the planet. Kinda, sorta…just like that….

   So, I feel the ache in your heart, Jay, over this Making a Murderer scooping by the rest of society. 🙁

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   • I haven’t listened to the show yet, but now I have a pretty good idea of what to expect from Jason’s Making a Murderer review. And, Gomez, your comment was pretty great.

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2. And let the Tarantino discussion begin…

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   • Word….I’m at work, but juiced to dive into the QT discussion….will post more later…. 🙂

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     • Listened to the rankings and review while finishing up my speech for my friend’s wedding tonight. I’ll be late to the conversation, but save me a spot. And Jay, you’re on my good side from now on. My Karl-hating spree will commence now.

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3. Sure…post this while I’m at work so I can’t listen to it till tonight…am very excited for this episode…URGH!!!

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4. Haven’t listened yet, but happened to catch the ratings. Wow, for Karl being a contrarian on Hateful Eight. I guess that’s me, too, around these parts, but not nearly to that extent (I gave it a 7.5).

   For now, here’s my Tarantino list (I did finish Death Proof and Kill Bill, and also watched Jackie Brown again yesterday):

   1. Pulp Fiction
   2. Reservoir Dogs
   3. Kill Bill
   4. Django Unchained
   5. Jackie Brown
   6. Inglorious Basterds
   7. Hateful Eight
   8. Death Proof

   Note that there’s a pretty wide gap between Hateful Eight and Death Proof (which I would give a 5.5), and a pretty narrow gap between all of the top 7.

   I am open to raising my rating on Hateful Eight on further viewings, or if all of you 9.5ers can convince me of the error of my ways.

   I feel weird ranking Inglorious so lowly, as it has some of the greatest scenes of all of his films, but it didn’t work as a whole that well for me.

   Looking forward to hashing some of this out with y’all.

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   • Man, you certainly did your homework.

     Out of curiosity, what didn’t work for you in Inglourious Basterds?

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     • I had just seen Django, and realized that I had never seen Inglorious Basterds, so I watched it a day or two after Django, and coming right after that, it just didn’t seem to be as complete of an experience. So by an immediate fresh comparison to Django, I clearly liked Django better. That may be completely subjective, but it felt pretty clear at the time. I do need to see Basterds again, though.

       Thinking back on it now, there is that opening interrogation scene, and that amazing tavern scene, and those are two of the best scenes in any Tarantino film… but I can’t remember much else. Well, I remember in a general sense the baseball bat scene, and the Hitler movie thing, but nothing else jumps out as being spectacular. Now, that could just be that I’m 46 and my memory isn’t great, so it might be that it’s being penalized for not being as fresh in my mind as everything else.

       Similarly to Hateful Eight, I really liked it a lot, but more in terms of individual moments and not necessarily as a whole.

       Rather than trying to number these films, I think a better way for me would be to put them more into some general tiers:

       A: Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Django, Kill Bill

       B: Inglorious, Jackie Brown, Hateful Eight

       C: Death Proof

       As far as Death Proof, I agree completely with J about the dialogue not enriching or enhancing that like it does in the other films. When Kurt Russell finally joins in at the bar, that is all wonderful, and again at the end with the car chase. But whew, those dialogue scenes at the beginning of each half of the movie just went on forever and did almost nothing for me.

       Responding to Andy, with Kill Bill, I watched both parts within a day of each other, and to me, it all worked really well. That amazing Crazy 88 scene is such a showstopper, and was a great curtain for the “First Act.” The Second Act could never equal that in terms of action intensity (what could??), so I liked how it was more cerebral, and I loved her interactions with Pai Mei, which had some great action. One thing I’ll agree with is that even without it being able to top the Crazy 88 scene, there could have been at least one really big action scene that approached that, and/or a bigger boss fight. But regardless, seen as a whole, all together, I think it’s terrific.

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       • The Crazy 88 scene is incredible for sure and a definite stand out, but it’s actually not my favorite scene of the movie. There’s so much to like here, as is the case with Tarantino movies, that it’s hard to pick and choose. Having said that, my favorite fight of the movie is the final showdown between The Bride and O-Ren Ishii. It’s so perfect and the closest someone’s gotten to truly recreate the look and feel of anime with live action (at least in my opinion). It’s also quite touching and poignant. But my favorite scene is the very ending sequence when Sofie Fatale is telling Bill word for word why The Bride allowed her to keep her wicked life. Soon after we see The Bride making the Dead List Five and right at the very end of the movie we get Bill’s revelation that The Bride’s daughter is still alive. I’m getting chills just thinking about it!

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       • Eric, I urge you to please give Inglorious Basterds another chance. It’s such a masterpiece of filmmaking. I don’t often agree with Jay, but when I do, I agree with him on Inglorious Basterds 😉

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         • Does that mean you hate the cinema too?

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         • Sal, all I gotta say is if you haven’t seen Inglorious Basterds, that’s the equivalent of hating the cinema. But I’ll give you a break for giving The Hateful Eight some love.

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           • Maybe I do hate the cinema. For all you know, I could be a masochist who just can’t stay away from the horror that is the cinema.

             #plottwist

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5. J, I think I know what you mean about Making a Murderer, but this was a huge story in Wisconsin, to the extent that the trial was shown live on TV in the state. Definitely not fabricated. Stranger than fiction, though, indeed.

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6. I haven’t seen every Tarantino film yet, but if I’d have to rank the ones I have:

   1. Kill Bill Vol. 1
   2. The Hateful Eight
   3. Pulp Fiction
   4. Kill Bill Vol. 2
   5. Reservoir Dogs
   6. Death Proof

   I’d say my top three are practically flawless great films. 4 and 5 are good. Death Proof is Tarantino’s average film. Looking back, I don’t think it was wise to have it be a double bill with the incredibly fun Planet Terror. It made all of the little issues stand out more.

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7. 1. Pulp Fiction
   2. Kill Bill
   3. The Hateful 8
   4. Reservoir Dogs
   5. Django
   6. Death Proof
   7. Inglorious Bastards
   8. Jackie Brown

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8. Okay, so here are my Hateful Eight issues, served up fresh for your scorn and ridicule…

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   First of all, I loved a LOT about this movie; the characters, music, cinematography, and a lot of the dialogue and story and setting. But… the idea that this was a mystery akin to Agatha Christie ended up being very misleading and disappointing. And it may be more of my expectations of that, and having heard that several times (including from Tarantino) that made it fall out a bit for me. But really, it ended up being very cheaply resolved, with a guy completely out of nowhere shooting Marquis through the floor. Where’s the mystery of that? How could we ever have known that? I mean, it made for a great surprise, but not within a story that was, until that point, a pretty good suspenseful mystery. It was Deus ex Nutshooter.

   And in that respect, the whole thing ended up feeling very contrived and arbitrary. And contrived isn’t necessarily bad; many great films and TV shows are very contrived. I get that this was a parlor piece showcasing several hateful people getting rid of each other. But I guess the point of it, ultimately, was a little lost on me and felt kind of meaningless. And that may have been the whole point, to show the meaninglessness of that kind of hate. Fine. But for such a long film, that had been building up so nicely, to have it all just play out very arbitrarily seemed like a shallow way to go.

   And the flashback scene… Tarantino has included many of those in his films, but usually they are more meaningful. Here we didn’t really learn much that wasn’t already discovered, but it ended up derailing the momentum for a good 20 minutes or so. The one interesting point to me was that the Confederate general (Bruce Dern) wasn’t one of the group of bad guys, which made it unfortunate that Marquis killed him first. But otherwise, we spent a long time seeing that group show up and kill Minnie and all that, which by that point we already knew had happened. As I said last week, I loved the whole long first part and how it built up so well, but then we had that long flashback, and I think it kind of threw things out of kilter for me as far as the momentum of the film.

   More later, as I’m heading out to see The Revenant, but that should be enough to give me some grief for, eh? :o)

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   • —SPOILERS FOR THE HATEFUL EIGHT—

     Even though it’s very much so a mystery and is billed as such, while watching it, I didn’t find myself focusing on the mystery of it much. For me, it was more of just a character study. Once everyone arrives, you don’t even know if a rescue attempt will even happen before they all end up killing each other. There was already so much tension between everyone before it became clear that there was at least one person with a secret agenda. I won’t say this is a positive or a negative, but rather just stating that the mystery aspect of the movie wasn’t a major part of the film for me.

     I believe I said this in last week’s comment section, but I loved the flashback scene. The anticipation of the gang killing everyone was the most suspenseful part of the movie. You know what’s going to happen, you know it’s going to happen sooner than later, but with each second that passes, I found myself more and more focused on the screen. Is it going to happen now? What about now? NOW?

     I will admit that if you’re looking to shave off some of the time, you could eliminate virtually that entire scene without affecting the movie. Still, I loved the scene.

     —END OF SPOILERS—

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   • Here was my only qualm…and it’s in regards to the plot…

     The whole movie, the bounty hunters Marquis and the Hangman, express knowledge they have of each other and other characters in the movie. They all have reputations and stories about them. And just about everyone knows them, or are familiar with them, if told the story. So, how do they not (seemingly) know of the potential for the brother to be out there, waiting to bush-whack them all? Both the Hangman and Marquis obviously know Minnie’s place, and they don’t check the basement storage area?

     I get it. That’s stupid and the movie’s dope. I know, I think that too. Just a thought I had that might provoke some comments.

     I did love that we really don’t know some things. Are there really 15 men from the gang out there somewhere? Is Mannix the sheriff? Were Marquis’ nuts completely blown to smithereens? The world may never know…

     Well….it’s Friday….off for some sarsaparilla and pushin’ a wheel with a stick. 🙂

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9. Btw, thanks for the plug, Jason. As I had mentioned in my original email to you guys, if you ever want to add “children’s music entertainer” to the list of “actor, critic, guy named Andy, etc.” just give a holler.

   Of course, Dino and I may already be busy doing Weekly Movie Podcast. ;o)

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10. My Tarantino viewing is still incomplete – I have yet to see Jackie Brown or Kill Bill, and I can’t recall Death Proof (although, I believe I do remember Planet Terror, but that’s neither here nor there). Anyway, my incomplete list of Tarantino films goes as follows:

    1. Pulp Fiction
    2. Inglourious Basterds
    3. Django Unchained
    4. Reservoir Dogs
    5. The Hateful Eight

    And, to be honest, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen Reservoir Dogs, so that might move up a spot on re-watch. Pretty close up top between Pulp Fiction and Inglourious Basterds, too; they could swap spots for me on any given day.

    As for The Hateful Eight, I did enjoy the film despite its ranking at the bottom of my list. It’s an 8.5/10 for me.

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11. Hey all, here’s my list….

    1. Pulp Fiction
    2. Reservoir Dogs
    3. Kill Bill Vol. 1
    4. The Hateful Eight
    5. Inglourious Basterds
    6. Django Unchained
    ***Combo cheat***
    7.5. From Dusk Till Dawn
    7.5. QT’s room in Four Rooms
    (Putting these two together are a full one for me. 🙂 )
    8. Kill Bill Vol. 2
    9. Death Proof
    10. Jackie Brown

    I know, I know….if I’m gonna cheat, where’s my Natural Born Killers…..I don’t really care about the movie, so it’s not here. Anyway, I do love FDTD and Four Rooms, so I put ’em here. 🙂

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    • If you’re going to be a no good, filthy cheater, where would you rank True Romance?

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      • Arrrgghhh…right when i hit the Post Comment button it hit me…

        Nice catch Sal! 🙂

        It is a dope flick…i’d stick it 5th or 6th and knock everything down a bit. A ton of cool bits to that movie. Its such a fun ride. I need to revisit IB and DU to justify their spots above or below TR. TR is def above my #’s 8, 9 and 10.

        Has Dino dropped his QT story yet?

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12. I have something a lot more challenging than just ranking Tarantino’s films…I wanna hear your guys picks for your top 5 favorite characters…big or small parts it doesn’t matter…There are just so many amazing choices to choose from…I’ll even let True Romance and From Dusk Till Dawn count…

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    • Oooooff…tough Shannon, tough. Looks like I picked the wrong night to stop sniffin’ glue! 🙂

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    • Ok..i’ve thought about it and I can only start here…no particular order…

      The Wolf
      Mr. Pink
      The Bride
      Honey Bear Stoner Pitt (I forget who he is) 🙂

      These are probably obvious and I’ll have to do a good retrospective to review the movies’ characters again…whammy…what a fun project tho…

      I’ll report back in when i have a better list 🙂

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    • Fandango has a personality quiz to see which Tarantino character you are >> http://link.fandango.com/r/QNXP51C/C1YH4/QFWUD3J/HYDIPOR/YB57NE/VT/h?a=wss=EMMT_fanalert_far%26type=fanalert

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      • I am Vincent Vega.

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        • I hate these stupid quizzes… I’m The Bride :/

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          • What’s wrong with getting the result of The Bride?!

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            • Oh there’s nothing wrong with The Bride. She’s awesome! I just hate those quizzes in general. A little hypocritical of me seeing how I just took one, but hey, I don’t want to be the party pooper.

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              • Are you a party pooper because of what happened the last time The Bride had an event?

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            • …Said another The Bride.

              — Signed, Vincent Vega

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              • Go eat a royale with cheese.

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      • I got The Bride.

        I believe that means I’m owed keys to a certain memorable truck. I’m waiting, Fandango…

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        • I’m Django! I’m brave and romantic, and born to fight for freedom.

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13. The Revenant… wow wow wow. Quite the visceral experience. 9/10

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    • So pretty good, huh? Nice! I think I’m doing it this weekend. Does it make ya wanna go out and fight a bear and eat raw fish?

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      • Uhhhh, well…

        I was particularly grateful to be sitting in a reclining chair in a warm, dry room, eating nachos and drinking a soda.

        :o)

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        • Aside from the more obvious survival action type stuff, there are a lot of nice little character moments, too. I especially liked one involving blinking.

          And I didn’t realize Domhnall Gleason was in this. What a year for him, with this, Ex Machina and Force Awakens. Same with Tom Hardy between this and Mad Max.

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          • For sure, Gleason is comin on strong…it mighta been 2014, but that little indie scifi romcom flick he was in about time travel was really sweet too. He’s in a good ep of Black Mirror too. It’s getting to the point where I cant turn around without bumpin into him….and I don’t really mind it. 🙂

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          • I still need to see Legend…haven’t heard good about the movie…but Hardy’s performance is supposedly still good in it. He’s a beast. For me, right now, it’s him and Oscar Isaac…that’s probably too easy of a statement to make, but I’m making it. 🙂

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          • Gleason is a true rags to riches story. Started at the burrow and now he’s one of the most powerful men in space.

            Besides The Force Awakens, Ex Machina, and The Revenant, Gleason was also in Brooklyn. That’s another movie that could be winning some awards.

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            • Oh geez, right, I forgot about that. I didn’t love it as much as many did, but it was good and he was great, as usual.

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        • You’e right Eric…wow. It’s stunning. I had to weirdly leave early about two hours in, but what a gorgeous two hours. The wilderness and other views were amazing. Wow. I cant wait to see the rest.

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          • Had to weirdly leave?? I hope that’s a story you can share. :oP

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          • Jay’s #1 “horror” movie of 2016: The Revenant. I’m calling it right now.

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            • No way, bro. The Revenant is too unrealistic… it could never happen.

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              • You mean as in cannibal troglodytes ripping people in half? Oh wait, that did happen, right?

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    • Oh yeah…was that the kid from Buzzard in the beginning? I kept expecting him to bust out a homemade Kreuger glove during the initial conflict scene. 🙂

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14. After thinking about this all afternoon…I totally agree with Ryan that trying to rank these movies is pointless and stupid…I’ve changed my list…
    1, It’s an eight way tie for number one!!!

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    • Well if I had added From Dusk Till Dawn…which is my favorite horror movie of all time and True Romance which I love to death to my list…it would have been a totally different ballgame…

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      • True Romance is so good and I have to say I’m glad Tarantino didn’t get to direct it and I’m glad Tony Scott didn’t shoot it out of sequence a la Pulp Fiction as it was originally intended. Maybe it would have worked but I love the version we got.

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15. Going to see Hateful Eight tonight so will have my list up after that. I’m sad to see Jackie Brown so low on everyone’s list so far.

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16. Watch Walton Goggins in the tv show Justified…He’s an amazing actor…

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    • Word to this….he’s so good in so much that he does…his turn in The Shield wasfun too…he doesan excellent bad dude. I’m pretty sure he’s got range for more tho. Either way, he’s great.

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    • Justified is where I know Goggins for. He’s the main reason why that show was entertaining and figuring out that that was him in The Hateful Eight only sealed the deal that it was impossible to fail with a cast like that.

      It was only yesterday that I learned that Goggins has a small, but memorable, role in Rob Zombie’s House of a 1,000 Corpses.

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17. Deadpool Deadpool Deadpool!!!

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18. Sorry to interrupt the Tarantino love to comment on such a small point made by Ryan, but, the Bothans died in stealing the plans to the 2nd Death Star seen in Return of the Jedi. Rogue One is about stealing the plans to the 1st battle station which sets up the premise for the original movie. I’ve heard this before from other people. Expect no Bothan deaths. Well, unless they just show up and get killed anyway… or Gary Whitta and Chris Weitz make the same mistake. I wonder if I should be a little worried about this movie.

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    • I stand corrected

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      • No biggie. You guys do an awesome job. I’ve been listening here and to some of the related podcasts at work for a few months now. You guys are one of the highlights of my week. Keep up the good work.

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19. I have gigs in Portland on Friday, so I’ve reserved a ticket for a 70mm full-length showing on Thursday night. I’m currently at 7.5, but we’ll see… might go up with another viewing.

    And to be honest, I know it’s worth more than 7.5 compared to most of what’s out there, but I was kind of thinking on a scale compared to how much I liked other Tarantino films, and other films from 2015 (an amazing year). I just couldn’t give it a 9 or 9.5 based on a comparison to other things like Fury Road and Ex Machina that I think were more solid and entertaining, overall. But I am hoping to get a better appreciation this time.

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    • That’s a fair point, Eric. I’m a huge Tarantino fan and as I walked out of the movie theater, I knew it wasn’t going to be for everyone, even within the Tarantino fan circle. I do disagree with the movie not being the same caliber as Fury Road or Ex Machina. Objectively, I think both of those films are every bit as good as The Hateful Eight. Subjectively, I think The Hateful Eight is a few steps ahead of the pack. Either way you see it, with such quality movies out there, we’re all #winning.

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    • I hate to disappoint Juan and others, but I had to bail on my planned re-watching of Hateful Eight on 70mm in Portland. I found out that the Book of Mormon musical was playing there, and I’ve been wanting to see that for a long time.

      As a Mormon, myself (though heterodox enough to go see a show like this), it was everything I expected it to be; crude, blasphemous, outrageous… and highly entertaining.

      I’m bummed, though, that my Hateful Eight ticket went to waste. I have friends in Portland, but nobody could (or wanted to) go. In retrospect, I should have offered it on Craigslist or something.

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20. Haven’t listened to the podcast yet. I have yet to see the Hateful Eight. I am torn as to whether I should watch this one or not. I enjoy Tarantino’s films, but coming from a family of police officers, my family has a big dislike for Tarantino after his comments about the police. On one hand, I feel that I shouldn’t let that stop me from seeing a good movie, but on the other hand, I don’t want to support someone whom my dad and brothers detest because of his comments. However I wanted to give my opinion on Daddy’s Home before I heard your reviews.

    Full Disclosure: I love Will Ferrell. I enjoy his humor (although sometime it can get dull and repetitive). Sort of spoiler at the end.

    For as as much as I can laugh at a Will Ferrell movie, he would be nothing without his supporting cast. Anchorman is a perfect example. This is another. Mark Wahlberg is a perfect counterpart to Will. Mark’s seriousness is a perfect balance to Will’s wit and stupidity. But that is also what I enjoyed about this movie. Will Ferrell didn’t play the same kind of character he is known for playing: the dimwit who can’t seem to find his way around without causing pain or anguish to those around him. He was able to hold together his family through this very bizarre circumstance. If anything, he was the one this time catching other peoples flaws as opposed to the other way around. He was funny through his actions this time instead of just rambling on until something funny came out. I think this is definitely one of his better ones and way above The Campaign.

    Mark Wahlberg was just as funny. Just a total badass who knew how to play his cards to get what he wanted. Linda Cardellini played her part perfect in how to handle these two polar opposites of characters. And I thought that to bring in John Cena at the end was perfect. Aside from Dwayne Johnson, Cena’s the only other guy that could scare off Mark Wahlberg like he did.

    8 out of 10. No need to watch it in the theater but definitely buy it because it is one you will watch more than once and laugh just as hard every time.

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21. After much deliberation and an internal battle that lasted for days, I’ve finally been able to come up with a list that’s as satisfactory as it will get (at least for me). Like it has been mentioned here already, ranking Quentin Tarantino movies is like being asked which of your parents you love the most. It’s a question with no real answer, or rather, the right answer would be “I love them all the same”, which I do (both my parents and Tarantino movies). I love each movie in a different way and for different reasons. They’re all so different and though they each seem to live within the same universe, which gives them that familiar feel, they all have very different personalities. To me, each movie is a character in and of itself living within that very unique universe that Tarantino has created over the years. Anyway, without further ado, this is how I would personally rank the movies at hand:

    8. Jackie Brown (9/10)
    7. Death Proof (9/10)
    6. Reservoir Dogs (10/10)
    5. Django Unchained (10/10)
    4. Kill Bill Vol. 1&2 (10/10)*
    3. Inglorious Basterds (10/10)
    2. Pulp Fiction (10/10)
    1. The Hateful Eight (10/10)

    *I see them as one movie, but if I had to pick, I’d go with Vol. 1 over Vol. 2, but only by a hair.

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    • I’m not dogging on your rankings, but I wonder if you’re still just in the post-movie glow of The Hateful Eight.

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      • Believe you me, my friend, I’ve thought about this ever since I saw the movie. The decision to take Pulp Fiction out of the top spot wasn’t taken lightly. Now, I’m not saying that these rankings are set in stone. They can fluctuate depending on many things, but as of right now and with a clear mindset, I am telling you that The Hateful Eight is going to be up there for a while.

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        • Gotcha.

          So, whenever Pulp Fiction reclaims the top spot, we’ll know the post-movie glow has finally faded. 😉

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          • Haha. Jay has taught you to twist people’s words quite well 😉

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22. Jason – If you like Making a Murderer, then you absolutely must listen to the Serial podcast. And, of course, you need to check out The Jinx… it’s a real life crime documentary series in the vein of Making a Murderer, but with much better actual filmmaking.

    But, then, I already said that…

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    • I was going to start Making a Murderer, but I started Jessica Jones instead :/

      Cool italics by the way. Now that’s a pretty looking message 😉

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      • Certainly better than ALL CAPS, I’ll admit (and more correct).

        You liked season 1 of Serial, so I’m sure you’ll like Making a Murderer. How’s Jessica Jones so far?

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        • I’m pretty sure I’ll like it, I just need to make time for it. I’ll probably start it right after I finish Jessica Jones, which is pretty great. If you liked Daredevil, you’ll like this. It’s darker, grittier, and slower, and even more intimate than Daredevil. I’m just on episode 5 and there have already been some interesting developments. Did you ever get to see Daredevil?

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          • I have not seen Daredevil. Just too much good TV.

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          • If you’re a fan of Marvel in general, I think Daredevil is worth a watch. I’m two episodes away from finishing Jessica Jones and I think Daredevil is the better show, but JJ is still pretty good TV. But yeah, I know what you mean, bro.

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    • I agree with all this. Serial and Jinx = Dopeness. Any thoughts on the new season of Serial? I’ve downloaded 4 episodes to my phone and have yet to get to them.

      Also, did you tease a Tarantino story last week? Have I missed it? Is it as strange as he seems to be?

      The anticipation is overwhelming…. 🙂

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23. Hi, guys, love listening to the back-and-forth. It might have been Andy, but when he says it’s shot in 70mm and therefore “shaky lens” he’s got it completely wrong. 70mm uses filmstock that’s literally twice as wide as regular 35 and therefore, in theory, has 4x the surface area for grain and therefore, detail. Tarantino and Richardson had to rebuild old UltraPanavision lenses to get that specific anamorphic aspect ratio, 2:76.1 rather than regular Panavision’s 2:20.1. A fetishistic detail, but hey, we’re talking about QT.

    If Andy saw “shaky lenses” what he really probably saw was gate weave (or “float”) in which the gate is not properly mounted or aligned and the film is not moving properly through the projector. This is an issue with the venue you saw the film, not necessarily (although it’s happened) with the original filming.

    Otherwise, 70mm allows QT to capture more detail (and colors and tones) in the b.g. than he otherwise would. Sorry for the long technical-nerd post but wanted to make it clear. Great podcast, surprised Jackie Brown wasn’t higher for many of you.

    Cheers, Roger

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    • Loved the “long technical-nerd post,” Roger. Thanks for the information. Very interesting.

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      • Ditto. Although I don’t agree that it’s just a fetishistic detail on Tarantino’s part. The use of that aspect ratio really made the inside of Minnie’s Haberdashery pop with detail and it made the space look huge. Most importantly, it’s an artistic choice and one that I think worked very well in the end.

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24. Hello everyone!

    I got to the podcast late this week, hence my comment trickling in now. And thanks once again for yet another entertaining show.

    Walton Goggins: a hearty cheer of agreement about his acting in Hateful 8! BTW, the short film mentioned by J in the podcast is the hilarious film by actor/writer/director Ray McKinnon (he played the preacher in Deadwood, and is the writer/director of Sundance TV’s Rectify) which won the Oscar for Best Short Film in 2002 (Goggins and McKinnon are best friends from way back). You can watch the Oscar-winning short on YouTube, and although the copy is not the best quality, trust me, you will not be sorry you spent the 30 minutes laughing:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9PMI7a2Fw4

    J and Andy: I agree with your assessment of Hateful 8’s strengths/weaknesses, and citing Bone Tomahawk’s less-anachronistic (albeit less-pithy) dialogue was spot-on.

    Ryan: Sorry, man, but you’re wrong about Roth’s performance in the film. I think you’ve just gotten artificially used to seeing him do his bad American accent. Personally, I thought it was great to finally see him able to use his native voice in a Tarentino film.

    Ryan, Andy, and J – Re: Will Ferrell. One of my favorite Ferrell movies is a lesser-known gem that has him playing the straight man (and doing it incredibly well) against Dustin Hoffman, Emma Thompson, and Maggie Gyllenhaal in “Stranger Than Fiction”.

    If you haven’t seen this but enjoyed movies such as “Groundhog Day”, “Being John Malkovich” or “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”, *don’t* read anything about it or watch *any* trailers, just watch it and prepare to have some amusing fun.

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    • Hi Mark.

      I don’t think the anachronistic dialogue is a weakness. It’s a trademark of Tarantino to juxtapose music and dialogue. I know some people are put off by it, but I find it fascinating. We don’t need to go that far back to see a prime example of this in Django Unchained. I thought the use of Tupac for the soundtrack was genius.

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      • Hey Juan,

        I have no problem with anachronistic music when done well (check out the great BBC series “Peaky Blinders” on Netflix with Cillian Murphy, Sam Neill, and Tom Hardy about a gangster clan in Birmingham, England in 1919. They use only contemporary music for the soundtrack to great effect).

        And although I think there are quite a few dialogue anachronisms in Hateful 8 (and Django too – especially compared to something like Bone Tomahawk, which felt much more period-appropriate), I think the only time it’s too “on the nose” (to borrow the humorous and wonderfully on-point description Andy used in the podcast) was during the blowjob speech. It was just at that particular moment (and I think Andy and J felt the same) that I got knocked out of being immersed in the movie for a little bit thinking, “Would someone really have described it like that back then?”

        Anyway, not a big deal overall. I still enjoyed the film quite a lot and look forward to seeing it again.

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    • Alright!

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